Because their companies already existed before they met, and they each prefer to establish their respective projects and engage mutually, if necessary, in specific actions, Fred Mudry and Pauline Epiney do not want to create a company specific to their history. . A collaboration for domestic peace? No, rather because everyone can bring their skills to the other while leaving them at the forefront of their creation. They explain it.
Why did you not form “your company”?
Fred Mudry: When we leave a school and we have things to say or want to develop projects, we form a company. When we met, I had mine with a series of shows already under my belt, and Pauline had hers. We were already involved in our respective companies. Pauline focuses on themes, topics that are really close to her heart. And I might have something more polymorphic. I am working on the project. So we have not left our companies. But we work together regularly.
Pauline Epiney: We like to work together and depending on the project, the other can bring their skills or can respond to a role.
How do you operate?
Pauline Epiney: When you lead a project, you have a global vision of what you want to do. You have to work upstream, make choices in form and content, choose the people on the team, the costume designer, the set designer, the lighting designer … Sometimes I asked Fred to play in my creations because it was so obvious to me that it was him.
Fred Mudry: … And inevitably, when I go into a project, I take over my part, the actor’s, the interpretation’s, I put suggestions at stake.
Pauline Epiney: We work well together because we listen to each other, we respect each other, and we can talk.
Fred Mudry: When there is no chef.fe, it can not work. Someone has to decide and take the lead when it’s Pauline’s project, then she does. And when I lead my project, I have the final cut.
Does being in a couple make the difference in the way you work?
Pauline Epiney: We dare to say things to each other, it’s super important, what I like is that I feel comfortable with him. I do not feel in a comfort zone because I am still in doubt, fear … but I feel that he supports me and encourages me while always telling me things sincerely.
Fred Mudry: With Pauline, I have the feeling that our relationship, romantic and professional, is really healthy. At work, we approach employees in the same way that we do among ourselves. We are respectful and attentive. We really are not a couple arguing, we had to do it twice in 8 years so it makes the work enjoyable.
Gaspard and Push up work really well, but you never wanted to start a joint venture? Gaspar op?
Pauline Epiney: For me, it is important to keep my identity, my independence, also at work and to suggest projects that are close to my heart, and having my own business allows me to do this.
Do you define yourself as independent fusion people?
Pauline Epiney: I do not completely agree with the term “fusional”, I do not feel that way, but I feel good about Fred and also at work. Since the work of creating a show is challenging, it is really nice to have a reliable and competent person by your side. However, I have made projects without him and others who come will be without his participation.
Fred Mudry: Pauline will be engaged for the second time in the Gaspard company’s project, “7 Dreams”, with Paola Pagani and Pierre Misfud next season. It’s a stage writing, so many ideas will come together during rehearsals. She will occupy an important position, the playwright, which consists in ordering all this to create meaning and coherence.
And each therefore accepts the other’s proposal …
Fred Mudry: Everyone hears them! And that’s already a lot. Afterwards, the person leading the project chooses what interests him or not in what the other can bring to the project. As far as dramaturgy is concerned, there is little to do harm, it is necessarily to ask questions that question your work. It is certainly difficult. If we do not go there, we will not find anything.
No misplaced ego in your story?
Pauline Epiney: When you work for the other, you are at the service of his project. The other takes what he wants, what he finds necessary and which corresponds to his desires.
Continue! Tell me, was there a place where there was a conflict?
Fred Mudry: Pauline is super hardworking, her projects are super well prepared. This avoids conflicts. The paradox is that everything works, but she still doubts! I ask myself fewer questions, I go for it! I’m more instinctive. We complement each other well.
Pauline Epiney: Sometimes we disagree, but it’s okay. It pushes to confirm the elections, to question them, it makes things move forward.
So you say you are complementary?
Pauline Epiney: Yes, we have complementary qualities and we work well together. In addition, Fred listens to me and supports me. We can also talk “at home” about our doubts, even if we are not working together on a project. The creation and execution of a show is strong, it tightens the ties even more and makes them stronger. It’s great to share all of this with the person you love
Fred Mudry: With Pauline, I feel much calmer in the way I function at work and in life. I think we complement each other well. We provide each other.
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